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Duverger’s Law

On Tuesday, after voting, I went to the local plasma center for my bi-weekly visit. Yes, I sell plasma. Anyway, as the election was the topic on everyone’s mind, I was asked by one of the technicians if I had voted and for whom. I revealed that I had voted third party and that I had done so in effort to support a multiparty system as well as not feeling a strong attraction to neither McCain nor Obama. Naturally, a donor next to me jumped in, stating that she was a politics major (and I would later find out she was a Drake University law student) and had to butt in. I figured this would lead to a discussion of politics from varying view points or even someone who agreed with me.

Wrong.

The law student started into a monologue about Duverger’s Law, with which I was unfamiliar and to which I confessed. She proceeded to talk down to me, allude to me being foolish for voting third party, then finally capped off her monologue with “maybe you should just move to Europe.” I tried asking a question or two of her concerning this Law and even make a few counterpoints, but she had said her piece had lost interest. It took all my strength not to remove the needle from my arm and pop her in the mouth. Essentially, she stated that Duverger’s Law said in a single-member district plurality (a.k.a. SMDP a.k.a. he/she who gets the most votes, wins) prevents anything more than the two party system. End of story.

However, when I got home and did a bit of research on Duverger’s Law (which she was so kind as to point out was French), I found out this girl was a bit off the mark. First, there are several examples of multi-parties existing (India and Scotland to name two) where SMDP is used. Second, the law doesn’t state that SMDP prevents a multi-party system. Duverger himself said that SMDP simply makes it hard for third parties to survive, BUT IT IS NOT AN ABSOLUTE! So, as most people do, she was shaping to fit her argument.

A few days later, I was speaking to a regular of Mars Cafe, whom is also a Drake Professor of Politics and Rhetoric, about this particular incident and he had this to say:

“You must remember two things about grad students: First, whatever it is they have read most recently, they will swear by it, and second, they then feel the need to tell the entire world about it.”

Boo yah, you stupid girl!

you can read more the wikipedia entry on Duverger’s Law here.

Ryan

Wow, I guess I’m voting for Obama (UGH)

I planned to vote for a 3rd party candidate in this election as I’m not wild about either nominee but McCain’s VP selection has pretty much convinced me to try to keep his ticket out of the White Haus, even though I semi-despise Barack “Change/Hope/repeat” Obama.

Mild reasons to vote against Silly Palin: zero foreign policy experience, no economic skills, pregnant teenage daughter (can’t even control things at home).

Serious reasons to vote against Palin: NRA member and hunting enthusiast, proponent of teaching CREATIONISM IN SCIENCE CLASS.

Holy shit.

PS – Preemptive address to Johnny B,

Yes, John, I know you or your father are probably NRA members and you might be offended.  If you recall from earlier posts I am a supporter of the 2nd Amendment but the NRA is a sick, sick, fucking organization and clearly the most hypocritical lobbying organization in America.  Even PETA and Planned Parenthood look sane by comparison.  NRA claims to be a “single issue organization” which is their repeated excuse for not lobbying for true conservation.  Somehow I don’t see how the “single issue” of gun rights includes 1) constantly sticking up for cops even when they’re wrong, 2) lobbying on behalf of trapping practices that have nothing to do with firearms or, 3) as they did until recently, support the ownership of assault weapons.

PPS – Abortion: some people don’t like Palin because she doesn’t support abortions in any situation but I more or less agree with that.

And for you vegetarians out there that don’t eat meat for moral reasons, how do you defend being pro-choice (if you are, that is)?  Moral vegetarian + Pro-choice = hypocrite

Thank you.

 

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