should communists be public employees?

some of you might remember a similar post about commies back in april. (hint: it’s right here…)

well here’s an update…

the california state senate recently passed legislation that says you can no longer be fired for being a communist. now the assembly has to vote on it.

who cares, right? mostly just people who actually believe in individual freedoms.

california is the only state that currently allows people to be ‘dismissed’ based solely on political affiliation. this comes about because of the “loyalty oath” that’s a part of the state constitution. the oath was approved by voters in 1952, and requires public employees to swear to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that (he/she) will bear true faith and allegiance to the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California; that (he/she) take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that (he/she) will well and faithfully discharge the duties upon which (he/she is) about to enter.” (check it out here)

if you are hired as a public employee and refuse to take the oath within 30 days, you will be fired.


“Every person who, while taking and subscribing to the oath or affirmation required by this chapter, states as true any material matter which he knows to be false, is guilty of perjury, and is punishable by imprisonment in the state prison not less than one nor more than fourteen years.”


“Every person having taken and subscribed to the oath or affirmation required by this chapter, who while holding office, advocates or becomes a member of any party or organization, political or otherwise, that advocates the overthrow of the government of the United States by force or violence or other unlawful means, is guilty of a felony, and is punishable by imprisonment in the state prison.”

the proposed bill, sb 1322, if passed, states that:
1.)all nonprofit organization and ‘clubs or associations organized to promote youth and school activities’ will be allowed to use school property without having to sign anything promising that they aren’t commies.
2.)employees of schools and community colleges can no longer be fired for being a commie.
3.)teachers can now teach about communism.
4.)public employees would no longer be asked about what organizations they belonged to.

however… you still aren’t allowed to teach about how to violently overthrow the government.

and if you’re still not convinced that this matters… the oath not only infringes on the ‘freedom to be a communist’ aka ‘freedom to have “non-traditional” beliefs’, but also on religious freedoms. wendy gonaver, for instance refused to sign the oath based on the fact that she is a quaker(religion) and a pacifist(non-traditional belief). she was fired from cal state, fullerton.

basically, like the recent ruling of the right to same-sex marriage, this is about our basic rights as humans and as americans. just because you’re not a quaker or communist doesn’t mean this has no effect on you.


3 responses to “should communists be public employees?

  1. It’s strange that such a progressive state would have such a draconian law.

  2. Interestingly (or, you know, not), Florida does not even prevent communists, etc. from becoming members of the Bar Association.

    There is, however, a provision that an applicant can not advocate the overthrow of the government – but membership alone in a political party does not disqualify you.

    There IS an oath for the Bar which is similar in some parts to the one required by California, but that’s kind of understandable for attorneys, since it’s their JOB to uphold the state & federal Consitutions.

    Still, if you can practice law and maintain your political beliefs, I don’t see why you can’t work for the government in some other capacity and do the same.

    Particularly in California, for crying out loud.

  3. do you know if other states ban communists from the bar association?

    and what about just admission to the bar?

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